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The Alpha Test - Part Deux?  

New2Midlo 54M
653 posts
10/1/2021 11:56 am

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10/8/2021 11:26 am

The Alpha Test - Part Deux?


Most women desire to partner with an alpha male; even those who may be alphas themselves. That's been proven over numerous studies and my own observations. Most men portray themselves as alphas, whether they use that term or not. While not universal, some women utilize the 'dinner test' to help identify those who really aren't. We've covered this before, but the short version is she'll ask what he wants to do for dinner and if he can't make a decision, even a poor one, he reveals himself as a non-alpha. I think I've identified another potential alpha test, but want to gather more input from the fairer sex before I memorialize it as such.

Let's set the stage for where I've observed this potential test taking place. It's a first or second date where things are going well and there's some high quality kissing taking place. Passion has ramped and the intoxication associated with kissing someone new is in full effect (I fucking love that.). Suddenly, mid smooch, the woman breaks away, her words indicating the night's festivities are over. At that point, the man has two choices. He can accept her word and part company or physically return her to the kissing. This has happened to me a number of times, but I'll share two examples that remain fresh in my mind, and how I responded to the situation.

The first was a second date with a woman (duh), who I'd cooked dinner for. We were pretty hot and heavy, various pieces of clothing having already been discarded, when out of nowhere, she stood up and said she has to go. Because wine was involved and I was in total lust, with her body language indicating reciprocation, I stood up and threw her back on the sofa, saying she wasn't going anywhere. On a side note, my actions were insanely out of character for me. I think the reason I became physical was she was<b> giving </font></b>off vibes that such actions would be welcome. Turns out I was correct, because when I sat back down, she was en fuego, straddling me as we resumed our passion. Fun night.

In another instance, for our first date, I met a woman at a local winery (Missouri wine, blech!) and things went well. Because I'm a gentleman, I walked her to her car, and because I found her attractive (and her body language indicated a reciprocal attraction), I kissed her goodnight. I found her kiss to be sufficiently enjoyable that I continued to kiss her. After a few minutes of this, again as the intoxication kicked in, she disengaged, said she had a great time, and turned to get in her car. I wasn't done kissing her at that point, so I grabbed her, spun her around, and threw another lip lock on her. This action was very well received and we engaged in a few more minutes of kissing, before parting ways the night.

Lest some think me a borderline bad person, there's one last key piece of information to share. In every instance where this has happened to me, my date's body language directly contradicted her words. In the second example, despite my date verbally disengaging and turning around, she didn't physically move to get into her car. When the first woman got off the sofa, stating it was time for her to leave, she stood within arm's reach. She also got up twice more, also staying within arm's reach and being forcibly tossed back onto the sofa, before I realized what she really wanted.

With those in mind, as well as other less memorable occasions I haven't shared, there emerges a clear trend. A connection is established, with physical interaction being desired by both parties. The woman disengages at what can be best described as a highly unusual stopping point. Her body language indicates she remains open for additional interaction. The male physically takes control of the woman and the physical interaction resumes in a more passionate manner, perhaps indicating that was her intent the whole time.

And so, we end where we began, with me asking for input from my female readers. How many of you have consciously engaged in such behavior? If so, for what purpose? Did you want him to take the same actions I did? For those of you who haven't, reflect on your entanglements and share if maybe you've done so unintentionally. Guys, feel free to share any similar experiences (that didn't wind up with you having to call an attorney). Any other input is welcome.

For the record, I do not endorse, condone a man forcing himself on a woman against her will, solely because of his wants. Those are not the actions of a real man. If you're unable to discern a woman's true intentions, with zero question, you stop when she says stop. Period. Oh, and get vaccinated, you dumb fuck.

New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
10/1/2021 11:57 am

Do your lips say no when your body is saying yes?


mufdiver69er2 63M  
1953 posts
10/1/2021 4:21 pm

id wager..and i am not a betting man..that many women would deny this while having done it...

woop woop


New2Midlo replies on 10/2/2021 12:14 pm:
I agree with you. Same as the dinner test; I don't think women intentionally test guys with it, rather it becomes a marker, should they fail.

Paulxx001 66M
22642 posts
10/1/2021 4:31 pm

Alcohol always warps reason.

An actual test of will and desire — would have been a 'sober' kiss. Let's face it; most women play by that 'third date' rule. I've educated my daughters in that triad of math.

Most men can count to three, and THAT skill is what women look for. It's NOT about body language or what the endorphins are screaming; it's about the gestation of feelings. Women, and some men, don't want to be fooled by a 'one-off.'

I've read where good wine has to be aged to be deemed worthy.

Then again, what the fuck do I know about wine? 🤔


New2Midlo replies on 10/1/2021 6:01 pm:
To be clear, alcoholic beverages were consumed at reasonable levels.

I don't recall mentioning anything about sex being involved in the subject.

G000dbuddy 36M
1676 posts
10/1/2021 11:30 pm

do not endorse, condone a man forcing himself on a woman against her will, solely because of his wants. Those are not the actions of a real man. Agree

goodbuddy781


missthee 58F  
4511 posts
10/7/2021 10:02 am

My words matter more than whatever "body language" the other party claims to have understood.
I am more likely to go all the way with a first date if there is no alcohol involved at all.
Also, if I consider someone has imbibed more alcohol than I care for them to have imbibed I walk away, despite the attraction and my heightened arousal. I prefer to reconnect at a later date when it's just us.


New2Midlo replies on 10/7/2021 3:57 pm:
Everyone is different and I'm sure you're a lot of fun, whipping out your breathalyzer on dates.

Can we stop fucking fixating on the wine portion, people? Where it was involved, it was excellent, but also consumed in a much lower quantity than would be required to impair someone's judgment. FFS, move on.

missthee 58F  
4511 posts
10/8/2021 9:23 am

I apologize if you understood my feedback to be a commentary on your own experience. That was not my intention.
Truly, I was just answering the question posed, offering my own preferences from my own point of view.


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