Deep Winter Ramblings
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Posted:Jan 28, 2015 10:04 am
Last Updated:Jan 8, 2018 7:52 am
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Well, it has been quite the 'interesting' two months, and not in a fun way. Hoping things settle down a little so we can enjoy some free time.
P and I are not huge fans of winter. We do however, enjoy the hot tub, especially when it is snowing (as long as the wind isn't too bad) and love a fire in the fireplace. Something very sensual about laying in front of the fire, feeling the heat against your skin, and cuddling up tightly!
We have learned something recently - while my weight loss has remained steady, P has lost the final 5. She looks absolutely freaking awesome! And, we have learned since the weight loss for us both, she is a lot more flexible and that is a lot more fun! She has incentivized me to continue to my goal, and this could get fun along the way!
The downside to our schedules right now has been the lack of a social life. Well, we are hoping to remedy this on Saturday night. We are scheduled to attend a local hotel party, and hope to get to meet some folks. We aren't getting a room and highly doubtful we will stay for the afterparty. Just looking forward to meeting open minded folks. And we found out we have an empty house this weekend - so life should be good!
We desperately need some fun back in our lives, and hoping this weekend will bring some!
Now the latest weather forecast is for snow on Sunday - Stay warm!
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Some things We Just Don't Understand.....
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Posted:Nov 3, 2014 8:54 am
Last Updated:Jan 8, 2018 8:43 am
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Recently P and I were talking about some recent things happening here that have us somewhat perplexed.
Over the last month or two, we have had a number of flirts from folks overseas. Just today, one from the Philippines. Now we don't get this. Why would someone in Germany flirt? There is nothing that says we will be traveling overseas, nor that they are coming to the area. Strange.....
And while we were talking, P commented on the number of flirts we have gotten from single men. Our profile states pretty clearly we aren't seeking single guys. Yet, the flirts keep coming. And usually from someone who hasn't even read our profile.....Only thing I can think is that these guys are playing the numbers game....send out enough, someone is sure to respond eventually.....
Which leads me to the topics of flirts and hotlists. Why do Gold Members do that instead of just sending an email and saying Hi? That is what we do. Only reason I can come up with is that given the number of non responses to the emails we send, this is less threatening to the ego.
And now on to that topic: Why is it people don't have the courtesy to at least reply with a no thanks? Getting no response to us means one of two things: either they didn't get the email, or they are so completely lacking in common courtesy we made a mistake sending it!
Humorous incident- I had made contact with and had a couple of conversations with a couple- P didn't realize it and sent them another intro email - haven't heard from them since! Had they commented on it, would have made a good story that we BOTH liked the profile. Instead.....
Funny thing - we don't meet all the folks who respond, quite a few of the ones we have met we have become friends with. Granted, there were a few we didn't click with, but for the most part we have met some really great folks.
With the holidays rapidly approaching (Happy HallowThanksMas!) we know time becomes an issue. People are much busier (and in some cases much more stressed) and we get that. I know we are. (I've been Christmas shopping for a few months now - almost done!).
P and I were discussing what is next for us. We are open to ideas about where our next adventure should take us. One thing is for certain - it will be fun!
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Halloween is Coming! And More Ramblings...
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Posted:Oct 28, 2014 11:42 am
Last Updated:Nov 3, 2014 2:02 am
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Well, been a bit since my last update. I would like to tell all about the great people and adventures we have had. I'd like to, except there hasn't been one! Life is in the way.
Now we are into one of my/our favorite times of the year. We love Halloween. We really like the trick or treating, usually have a group over to have chili, brats and pass out candy - great time.
It is also a time for parties, and we are attending a lifestyle one this weekend! Finally, something to do exciting!
Costumes are chosen, we have friends going, so the evening could be fun! We don't get a room or plan on staying, but if we meet someone and there is a click...who knows!
The other 'big' news is actually great news. Over the last 6 months, she has lost 20 pounds and looks freaking awesome! She wants to lose 5 more, and as long as she doesn't lose the boobs I am good with it!
I have also lost weight. A lot. Over 67 pounds now. I now weigh less than I did when I graduated high school- (yet it doesn't look quite the same!) She tells me (along with our girlfriend) that I look great. I am starting to believe them. Not quite there yet, but starting to.
Would like to take off another 12 by the end of the year, and another 10 by spring (MD says that will be enough). Still won't be hwp (will never be) but I won't care!
The weight loss has done remarkable things to her libido! She has become almost insatiable - and I love it! She will orgasm easily 3-4 times during a 'quickie' and the other night was well over 15! At one point she was just going from orgasm to orgasm like huge waves crashing over her! Have to say I was quite pleased with myself after that, and so was she!
What is has done for me is something I never worried too much about. It has made my junk look and feel bigger - at least according to her it does! And I have noticed it as well since she pointed it out! Before, I would say I was 5.5 - 6 (probably closer to 5.5). Now easily 6 - 6.5! (Hoping closer to 6.5!!) I know, doesn't sound like much, but it sure is making a difference with her! And, has improved my self image a bit too! 
We are excited about where this road is taking us - just wish we didn't have to keep pulling off at the rest areas so often!
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Update and the Next Adventure!
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Posted:Aug 13, 2014 1:55 pm
Last Updated:Oct 28, 2014 10:06 am
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We haven't updated in quite a while. Could blame it on being busy, but in reality decided to take a break from the sharing of our thoughts and adventures. Seems that every time we do, someone reacts negatively.
We are here seeking adventures to augment an already fantastic sex life. For example, we just got back from vacation. While on vacation (sorry - no hook ups to talk about) B went on a mission to see how many times he could make P orgasm.
Well, it was quite a week. At the end of 7 days, her total was 140. 140! Quite proud of that! And before we hear that isn't possible, yes it was. Sex twice to three times a day - and not for hours either! Did I mention P is quite orgasmic - and once she starts, she will continue.
Since we drove, we had a lot of time in the car to talk. P 'confessed' what she would like for our next adventure. So, we are now focusing our efforts on finding a single Bif or a couple with a bif for what she has requested.
She has stated she would like to be blindfolded, and not knowing who is doing what to her. This is something we have done once in our past, with a single guy (and no, we are NOT seeking a single guy!). Now she would like to try it with a single lady or a couple.
We are open to how this is to happen, but the one thing she does insist on is that I have met the the people prior - it can be for coffee or a drink, but she wants to know I have sat down with them. After all, have to make certain no one is a serial killer! 
There is a lot more that will go into what happens, and for folks who may be interested a quick email will get the details.
The other thing that amazes us is how rude and aggressive the single guys are getting. We usually respond to an im with a 'not seeking single guys - good luck'. Would say about 50% are polite - the others, not so.
And here is a funny story - a single guy IM'ed when P was on. She told him the above. He came back with something that she thought was so funny she continued the conversation. He was polite and generally fun to talk to. A real gentleman is how she described him. She relayed this to me, so I sent a email to get to know him a little. Guess what? No response. Shocking. We tell this story not to encourage single men - but to illustrate how polite and funny go a long way. (Last night, when I sent the good luck - I got called an asshole - which is true, but not last night! So now, he is blocked.)
We know what we want, and we know what we don't. As we have said in the past, smokers fall into the don't due to health reasons. Again, 95% understand - the other 5%? Not so much.
So, the search continues for the next adventure.....
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Springtime and Thoughts of Adventures
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Posted:Apr 28, 2014 11:26 am
Last Updated:Aug 14, 2014 2:28 am
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Spring in finally here, and our thoughts are turning to the possibilities of adventures. Recently P brought the topic up, and I listened intently.
We have a pretty common issue occuring right now, and that is the lack of available time. We have met and are planning a date with a great couple (we have been out socially with them before) and it took 5 weeks to coordinate schedules again! Fortunately everyone understands the logistics of getting all four on the same page at the same time, so it is all good. But still, the lack of availability is tough!
So P and I discusssed what type of adventures we were going to seek out. Well, not much was decided. Here's the rub, if you will.
P will no longer get online here. She has been blasted by too many idiots who can't read, or are just downright rude. She is refusing to talk to anyone online anymore, and frankly I don't blame her. Constant barrages from single men - we don't mind the guys who say hi and understand we aren't looking for them - no big deal. It is the asshats who are rude for the sake of being rude. IF that works, go with it. Something tells me it doesn't. And especially not with us.
So back to what we are seeking. Nice, normal, everyday, nonsmoking, decent people to get to know. See if there is a connection. Take it from there. Doesn't sound like it is that hard right? SO why is it?
Well, there are the folks who really aren't a couple (single men pretending - and guys, you don't think the couples communicate about who you are???) couples who aren't serious (think they are ready, then flake) and finally there are the couples who enjoy and participate in the lifestyle - just having problems finding them!
What astounds me is the lack of common courtesy. We know the IM system is flawed, so we never think about about not getting a response. But email? When we send an email, it means we are interested. No response means you don't have the common courtesy we want, and immediately removes you from our radar.
So why be here if you aren't going to at least say no thanks? The thing that attracted us to this (from listening to Michael and Holli) was the lifestyle is supposed to be all about respect for each other. Yet we don't seem to be experiencing that all the time???
So as P and I work our way towards the next adventure (or two), we have come to a crossroads or sorts. Do we walk away or keep trying to find folks? She mentioned leaving as a possibility - then said we have found a few good keepers (becoming great friends and hope to have adventures with them in the near future!!!) and we believe our circle of friends can easily widen with more great people.
Shame the idiots are ruining wht is supposed to be a fun thing!
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Ought to be a Rule
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Posted:Apr 17, 2014 2:11 pm
Last Updated:Nov 20, 2014 3:23 pm
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Recently P and I were checking out some cams, and we unfortunately clicked on on a few that were listed as a couples profile - only to find a single man stroking it! That's not to say he isn't part of a couple, but still - we click looking for something completely different!
Neither one of us is extremely fond of watching men masturbate. In fact, I can honestly say it is one of the things I prefer not to see. The problem is I can't unsee it! P is never excited to see it either.
Now, we both enjoy seeing a couple having fun. There is pretty much nothing a couple can do legally we won't enjoy. But talk about disappointed people when we click......
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Profile Views
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Posted:Apr 16, 2014 6:03 am
Last Updated:Oct 28, 2014 10:09 am
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Today, I took a look at whose profile we had viewed, as I was looking for one we were interested in. Imagine my surpise when I saw profiles listed there we had never looked at, nor would be. Some we had seen before, knew there is no connection, and others we wouldn't due to distance!
I realized that the number of folks we thought were taking a peak at us is not accurate, and neither are the folks listed.
We have no idea who is looking and who isn't. Which means we have no idea who is interested and who isn't. Hard to figure out.
We are thinking the same holds true to flirts and hot listing. We found folks on our hot list and we have never even looked at their profiles! No idea about flirts!
If we are interested in someone, we send an email. Funny thing is, even they we sometimes don't ever get a reply back - just get ignored? Why ignore? A simple no thanks works!
So our thought is is - why doesn't TSdates.com just show who really looked at us, who really sent us flirts, and whose hot list we are really on?
Only reason I can think of they do it this way is to make it seem like we are more popular, so we will continue to pay for the site!
Thoughts?
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The Married "Single" Guy
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Posted:Apr 13, 2014 5:27 am
Last Updated:Apr 13, 2014 12:56 pm
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Recently we have been approached by a number of single men who actually have turned out to be married. We have a hard rule - we will not consider a married person without the spouse - and that goes both ways. We made this decision as we entered the lifestyle, and have no intentions of changing it.
Today We were messaged by a guy whose profile says he is single. When we said we weren't seeking a single man, he replied and said "That's OK - I'm married and she doesn't play".
Seriously??? That makes it OK?
We have also been approached by men pretending to be a couple, only to be told after a few conversations that she "isn't interested" in playing but he sure is!
We have heard how the wife has lost interest, how he wants to explore, and a number of different variations. Our response is simple - no spouse no thanks! If your spouse doesn't want you why would we???
P is really turned off by this part of the lifestyle, and it is starting to color her response to folks who are real and genuine. Her first question is "Think they are real?"
We have stated we will reach out to anyone - including single men - we might have an interest in - and now, had to change it to not interested in single men due to the number of rude asshats we have encountered.
Shame that the idiots are ruining what could be a great adventure!
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What Brings You To The Lifestyle?
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Posted:Mar 9, 2014 3:56 am
Last Updated:Nov 20, 2014 3:18 pm
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The other day I was having a conversation with a couple we have met in the lifestyle. This is not a couple we have played with, nor will we. The wife has made it clear that while she likes me, she 'has me at home' (her words) and is looking for something 'different'.
Out of curiosity I asked her to explain exactly what that meant. She was pretty direct. She said I was a nice, decent, considerate guy, and she likes hanging out with us. By then, I was really confused. She then said, by hooking up with us she would feel 'obligated' (her word) to make sure I was completely satisfied.
I pressed a touch and asked what she meant by obligated. She went on to say that she would be more concerned with my pleasure than her own. When she saw I still didn't get it (I can be pretty slow on the uptake) she then told us "Look, when we hook up, I really don't care if he likes how it goes or not. I don't care if he cums or not. All I care about is that I do, and that I cum more than once. And when I'm done, I'm done, even if he isn't." She admitted that sounded selfish, but, she wasn't apologetic. That is why they are here.
She went on to tell us that at home, she is way more concerned about her hubby than herself, but quickly told us he is 'great' in bed and P could try him out anytime she liked, but there was not a swap possibility.
Then, she went on to tell me that she did know women who do only look for the nice guys. She also said she knew some only liked the conceited assholes as well! Had to laugh at that one!
Have to say, this was a first. I have been rejected for age, size, height, looks, and probably penis size as well (average and the woman made it clear she only wanted big ones!) but never for being a nice guy.
So, being the geek I am, I did a little reading.
I ran across an article that had quotes from folks in the lifestyle about what attracted them to it, and there is was. A woman in the article said almost the exact same thing, that when she is playing she doesn't worry about her partner (unless she is with a woman, then she does) and she is 'getting hers'.
She said she didn't worry about what the guy thought about her, since she wasn't going to wake up next to him in the morning. There were other quotes about in the article, things like: I can be 'free' to get what I want, like to experiment, the thrill of being with someone new, learning new things to take home, and so on.
For us, it is pretty simple. It is all about a shared adventure, something outside the society norm, the taboo. Which is why we will not play alone, and want same room activities (that and I do like to watch!).
For P, this conversation was a bit shocking, and in a subsequent discussion she admitted she never thought of it that way. She is always concerned with my satisfaction (and I hers) and never looked at it any other way. I could see the 'gears turning' on this, and will give her time before I bring it up again to let her mull it over. I know her, and given time she will form an opinion about this, but she will take her time doing it.
We know what attracted us to the lifestyle. Now, we are curious about others. Can anyone share what attracted them to this? We would love to read about it!
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Oh How We Hate the IM System!
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Posted:Mar 8, 2014 9:59 am
Last Updated:Mar 9, 2014 3:24 am
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We have gotten to the point of saying we hate the way the IM system works here. It shows people on that aren't. For example, recently I signed on, signed off a few minutes later. Came back to 3 IM's waiting. IM'ed them all back but either they weren't on or were upset it had taken so long to get back to them so we got not answer.
In my humble opinion, this is a problem when people are looking for others to say hello to. It they screen name isn't on but is showing on, we feel, well, ignored. And we respond as nice as possible to almost every IM - unless it is rude(all bets are off then!), so when it is showing us online, we aren't, someone sends a message they get the wrong message in return.
It is frustrating to us not to know who is on line. Right now, it is just a best guess.
So if you see us on, feel free to say Hi. But we are warning you, we may not even be here!
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The Joys of Rejection
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Posted:Mar 6, 2014 7:12 am
Last Updated:Mar 6, 2014 9:16 am
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P and I have become quite spoiled over the last year and a half, with regularly having the house to ourselves for weekends. Well, just recently that came to an abrupt halt!
Our (who is 22 and still lives at home) recently broke up with his girlfriend, who lived 40 miles away. It used to be every weekend, he would leave after work on Friday nights and we wouldn't see him until dinner (which he never seemed to miss) on Sunday.
While we mourned the loss of our alone time, he was mourning the loss of a relationship. And, in typical young fashion, neglected a few things (like a shower- he had to be told!) and he has holed up in the basement - quite the cliché, but we do have a finished basement with a man cave when he is not working.
We gently pressed and found out it is because he changed jobs, and he is now in sales. Due to the commission structure, he has been struggling a but financially while building a clientele. Based on what he is telling us, he is doing it quite well. However, his company pays part of his commission weekly and the majority of it twice a year in a 'bonus' style. Which has made his cash flow suffer as he is waiting on the next bonus.
His girlfriend got mad because he had to 'cut back' on the nights out, the splurging on gifts and even buying food while he was there - he told us they had a big fight in a grocery store - she wanted a roast while he was holding hamburger. Not good.
Trying to talk to him is not easy. It bothers him, so he shuts us down. He admitted to P he feels like a "failure" because he is having this happen.
Makes me remember being young, and getting knocked down, especially in romance. I know, hard to believe that could happen to me, right? LOL...
We have all felt the pain of a failed relationship at some point, and now being in the lifestyle we are opening ourselves up to the risk of rejection again. And I don't know anyone who enjoys being rejected!
P and I have been together since 1985. 29 years. And as I say, 26 of the best years of her life! I have been with her over half of my life, and her the same. We have been through some fantastic times, some awful times, and a lot of living. So for us, this is nothing more than a chance to get to know great people and possibly have an adventure or two!
Yet, even with all that, getting rejected rudely is awful, especially for her. Recently, a couple who we had only talked to - that decided we -of all people- were too promiscuous for them - we had just had our first adventure - one - and we were too promiscuous- talked with a mutual friend, and sang our praises about how great we were, how much they liked us, and that they definitely had to get back in touch.
Needless to say, we haven't heard a word, nor do we expect to. They were quite rude in their rejection, and P is not forgetting that.
We have also been in the position of having to say no interested to people, for whatever the reason (seems to be lately due to smoking - I can't tolerate smoke and we make that well known). We try to be gentle, and at the least respectful. One couple contacted us, we weren't interested due to smoking, has recontacted and now listed as non smokers - we are open to talking and getting together for a meet and greet!
Now to make matters worse this week, our was home from college on spring break - and her room is right next to ours - so P has 'not been in the mood - what if she hears' for almost a week! Isn't life great!
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Suggestions For The Next Adventure
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Posted:Feb 27, 2014 12:32 pm
Last Updated:Feb 28, 2014 11:55 am
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Well, I have started to give thought to planning another adventure for P. We talked about it, and while she has not given it the green light she didn't shoot the idea down either. So, being me, I started thinking and working on a plan.
The first time, I had her blindfolded and we met with a single guy (the adventure is posted in the blog). She loved it. Now, she is afraid the next adventure will not be as good, or go as well.
She also stated that she is not looking to do another single guy, since each time we have tried to set it up the guy either said something either she or I didn't like, got squirrelly or bailed. She took the actions of these individuals personally. So, please single guys, do not email/IM saying you are different (we've heard that waaaay too many times), we are not interested. IF we ever are, I will look for one.
So I have been giving this some thought. I am leaning towards having a group of people (maybe 2 couples) be given free reign over her - allowed to touch, kiss, lick, caress - but no penetration. I am thinking the contrast of 4 mouths 8 hands would send her into sensory overload. She would again be blindfolded so she wouldn't know who is doing what. I also thought about restraints as well.
When I floated this type of an idea by her, P has made it clear she does not want to be restrained. She said she would panic, and that would not be a good thing.
I am also looking for ideas. Given our professions, we have to remain discreet, so anything in public is out. Single men - out. That being said, I would love to hear any ideas you have on what I should think about for our next adventure.
Suggestions?
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