The Audacity of Some People!  

myelin36 50F
4770 posts
6/29/2018 5:54 pm
The Audacity of Some People!

This afternoon after placing my groceries in my car at Walmart, I heard two Jack Russell terriers barking their heads off in an unoccupied van with the windows cracked in a stall next to mine. Temp was 105 degrees outside and the vehicle was parked in full sun. I waited five minutes before I contacted law enforcement and animal control. As a lover, I can't stand when people have no common sense. I went up to the van and surprise surprise the door was unlocked so I opened it to let air in. I stood next to the van waiting for law enforcement (or the owner) to show up.

Fifteen minutes later the owners came out berating me for "breaking into their van." When I pointed out the obvious, they replied, "they had water, (no water was visible amongst all the junk) the windows were cracked and we were only inside FIVE minutes." I informed them I had called the police, given them their tag number and they were on the way. The male half laughed and stated, "well the car belongs to a corrections officer. It was apparent HE was not the corrections officer as he looked like a meth head. Still, no police responded and they left.
#wheresacopwhenyouneedone

What would you have done?
Nothing
Call police and observe from a distance
Call police and try to help rescue the dogs
Other (leave comments below)


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rachel0718 55F
20470 posts
6/29/2018 6:08 pm

It's a crime to leave animals in a sealed up car... It may not be hot to us outside, but inside a vehicle and with their fur/hair... It's 15-25 degrees hotter!


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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:38 am:
A new law went into effect yesterday in Kansas that gives bystanders permission (without liability) to forcibly enter an unoccupied vehicle if there is an animal or human inside that may be at risk.

ProfessorNaught 108M
1395 posts
6/29/2018 6:25 pm

    Quoting rachel0718:
    It's a crime to leave animals in a sealed up car... It may not be hot to us outside, but inside a vehicle and with their fur/hair... It's 15-25 degrees hotter!
Rachel - you know - in California they would have been arrested for one thing or another.


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:40 am:
I wish Kansas would join the 13 other states that have enacted laws to make animal cruelty/abuse a crime just like a sex crime. Currently, several states have offender registries for people who have harmed or abused animals.

jerkygirl59 62F
8 posts
6/29/2018 6:33 pm

Stupid people


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:40 am:
Agreed.

ProfessorNaught 108M
1395 posts
6/29/2018 6:33 pm

Pretty much the same as you...
Open the door, let them out, reach into my car and pull out a bottle of water. Especially if their tongues were hanging out (a clear indication of dogs being overheated)

Not sure about calling the police - I don't really need them to speak my mind for me or take action
But then, I'm not small or a woman That's my "Audacity" or is that arrogance?

But the greatest thing about smart phones, they all have high resolution camera's.

If I could not push the windows lower, or waited more than 5 minutes for the police, I would have gone inside and had management make an announcement over the PA system - nothing like putting idiots on display and embarrassing them in public. I'm pretty sure that's called arrogance


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:41 am:
I like your idea of having it announced on the PA. I have filed that away for future reference.

clittywhisperer1 57M
1415 posts
6/29/2018 7:04 pm

One must be careful of direct confrontation ,you may get killed now a days . call animal group .write down license number and description of dogs and owners ,write what you found . give it to animal rights group in town let them investigate the situation .


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:43 am:
When an animal is confined in an unoccupied hot vehicle, the clock is ticking depending on how long the owners are away from the car and often time is of the essence. My fear was the owners were inside shopping and the dogs would be dead before they returned.

redrockrascal 63M
23359 posts
6/29/2018 7:56 pm

Call police and observe from a distance.

If, BIG IF, people weren't as "uptight" as they are now a days I would have opened the door but who knows what kind of jerk the person(s) are? You got lucky it was just a junkie. But good on you for doing something.

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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:45 am:
The parking lot was crowded and being videotaped. If they wanted to do something foolish then there would be a lot of witnesses and evidence against them to support a murder conviction. If people are that mentally unhinged to kill someone in broad daylight over a dog rescue, then they deserve to be locked up.

Glad that wasn't the cast though.

SummaLuva 55F
3 posts
6/29/2018 8:16 pm

Disgusting that people do this still. Bravo to you for acting!


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:45 am:
Thank you.

ironman2769 56M  
12877 posts
6/30/2018 6:19 am

I give you credit for doing the right thing......if the dogs were kids they would have taken the kids away for a brief period. Poor dogs don't get the same consideration..sadly

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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:46 am:
I am positive that the police would be running lights and sirens to respond to the parking lot if it were a child locked in a hot car. It's a shame that animals are not given the same consideration.

08540Tantrafun 57M  
1072 posts
6/30/2018 12:03 pm

Call police and observe, if the dogs are getting overheated. Document it on your cell phone. Rescuing dogs this way and getting in the middle of a domestic dispute is a sure way for the good Samaritan to get hurt. You were lucky this time.

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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:50 am:
I feel I was doing the right thing at the time. I weighed the consequences of being a bystander before making my decision. If it was a child instead of an animal in that vehicle, I am sure that anyone would have taken action regardless of the consequences.

olderboy48 72M  
79 posts
6/30/2018 1:57 pm

Since you stated that there was a lot of junk visible in the van, I am going to guess that these folks were not the most considerate or concerned people on the planet. You did what any reasonable person should do. Kudos to you.


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:51 am:
Thanks. I was surprised that a lot of people just walked by and refused to get involved. One guy said he would have stood by with me but was on a cross-country trip and behind schedule to get to his next destination.

veryfunnycple64 57M/58F  
21770 posts
6/30/2018 4:28 pm

most states allow for this...it's about the intention....safety of people or animals is a priority!

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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:52 am:
Kansas just passed a law effective July 1 giving people permission to forcibly enter a car if an animal or child is at risk. Unfortunately, that law was a few days away. Fortunately for me, the car was unlocked and the dogs ended up ok.

panama0192 39M
34 posts
6/30/2018 4:48 pm

Yeah treat your pets like you would treat your kids


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:53 am:
Exactly. I don't understand how some people can even own pets.

NudeDon69 52M  
1431 posts
6/30/2018 8:52 pm

A garden hose on full force through the cracked window would help. Let the poochies get plenty of water and have a nice cool swim.

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myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:54 am:
Nice concept but in a Walmart parking lot, I had limited options.

indiasexyogi 59M
74 posts
7/1/2018 3:07 pm

Hi myelin, simply opening the door was enough instead of calling police. Best you could have stayed with those dogs till owner came back. He could have understood all of your presence and felt sorry for some delay. You may try this next time, after all we are responsible people. Good luck from - Indian Yogi


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:55 am:
I had a carload of groceries getting hot in my car. I had hoped law enforcement would have arrived and been more proactive in dealing with the situation.

citizen4722 63M  
73611 posts
7/1/2018 3:59 pm

I just don't understand the mentality of some people.


myelin36 replies on 7/2/2018 6:56 am:
Unfortunately, idiots never cease to amaze me.

LadyTeddieBear 64F  
1131 posts
7/2/2018 12:47 pm

If the car had been locked and you called the police and told them that you were going to check the doors to see if they were unlocked if not you were going to break a window to save these dogs I know in California you can do that and the owners can recieve a ticket to go to court for animal cruelity. Those owners didnt care but you did give the tag number they could send them a ticket or even go with there home YOU DID THE RIGHT THING

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s2ndegree 62M  
9797 posts
7/2/2018 1:07 pm

We've had three kids die in cars because of this same thing. Two were kids of women who
were out shopping the other was a Chef in scottsdale who was setting up a catered
affair.They just forgot they were there.Dogs are all over the place when we're
driving so they really shouldn't be there in the first place.Kids are tucked in a child seat.Connected to a car seat belt in the back of a van .
So whether it's a meth head carting around a couple of expensive dogs or just a mom whose other kids were lucky enough to be in school.
People just need to be mindful of what they're doing.
Dogs are replaceable, sadly kids aren't.

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Januaryman99 53M  
327 posts
7/5/2018 9:32 am

Ugh. Zero tolerance - I'd have done exactly as you did, but I probably would have also taken photos of the dogs locked in the car and another of the license plate, so I could show or send them to animal control if the owner returned and took off. My dog loves going with me in the car and I confess that I DO take her with me all the time, even in the heat (which has been stifling this past week). BUT, I've never-ever-ever left her alone in a hot (or cold) car and never for more than 10-minutes. I leave my car running with the air conditioner or heat on. An auto-starter keeps it running for 20-minutes before shutting off and allows me to lock it up and take the keys. I also keep the windows cracked, which I know makes no sense, but I do it so she can hear the outside world while she's alone. Silly, yeah, but we all have our pet quirks.

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wickedeasy 71F
32404 posts
7/5/2018 10:17 am

I might have broken the window after 15 minutes...………..I can't stand he stupidity of some people.

( I also might have taken the dogs.....I've been known to "rescue" a few dogs in the middle of the night.

You cannot conceive the many without the one.


myelin36 replies on 7/9/2018 3:01 pm:
My instinct upon contact with the methed-out owners was to feel extreme pity for those poor dogs.

dan_nl_2006 39M
1117 posts
7/8/2018 5:18 am

First of all I dont think you "broke into the car". The car was unlocked and you were helping.

I had a similar situation where a mom left her 3 young kids in a locked (I think) mini van outside a grocery store. I debated to call police. The kids looked fine so I just continue to observe them . Mom came back in less then 10 mins. I didnt do anything else beside observing/watching to make sure kids are safe..


rolfieie 60M

7/10/2018 12:09 pm

I think it's just stupid t bring your pets with you when you go shopping, I f you can't leave them at home then you don't deserve to have them


2Tstfulgy 65M
23 posts
7/10/2018 2:07 pm

You did the smart thing in calling law enforcement .. I hope you kept the tag #. But to have done more than what you did then might have put you at risk, too. I would do a follow up call to the Sheriffs office and talk to the Sheriff about possibly his correction officers problem with who he loans his auto to, and the law they broke while driving it ! With your background you are probably right about them either currently being meth heads or were /will be meth heads in past and future... Sheriff should also know your suspicion on that .... Especially when they laughed about the law being called and told you it belonged to a corrections officer... LTNC in here ! Enjoy !


_IKanCu2_ 102M

7/10/2018 10:31 pm

When/Where ever possible "record-record-record", if You have a witness with You, all the better.
Even tho the van was "un-locked" that is breaking and entering as far as the court*z are concerned.

The Public have a Duty to themselve*z, and the LARGE majority just don't want to get involved. That is perfectly fine by Me and ][ totally TRUST in Karma.
][f You have the Power to right a wrong, and didn't,,, Dharma is most gracious to carry it for You. The next Time You "expect/scream" Justice, consider it paid Forward.

YU my Dear did the right thing, ][ may have smashed the window, good thing You checked the door !


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