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thikhead 63M
502 posts
5/22/2020 5:34 pm
what is this poll suggesting?

ok, any trumper "knows" polls are all "fake news" and
nobodys opinion means anything, except theirs.
so lets look at their views together, shall we?

apparently a significant number oppose biden NOT pardoning trump.
lets assume its not those you trumpers call "trump-haters". fair ?

so it must be trump SUPPORTERS, also fair ?

so then, a significant number of trump supporters
are admitting that trump HAS committed a crime or crimes
or else why would a pardon even be an issue?

lets hear the excuses and blame-game now.


"were all in this together"


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/25/2020 8:44 am

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    I heard talk of Cuomo replacing Biden as Dem candidate. Is there any more on that story?

    The willingness of so many people to allow themselves to be lied to is a constant source of wonder to me.
again, thanx for your interest and neighbourly concern.
at a time like this, its good indeed to have friends


from what i see, doesnt look like cuomo is interested.
seems mostly focused on finishing the job he has now,
and rightly so. hes a nyorker, fulfilling his commitment.

but its also very late in "the game" to jump in.
could cause a lot of partisanship and division
among the dems who are already struggling
to ally bideners and sandersites.

cuomos too classy and practical
to want to create that kind of chaos
at a time like this.

ironically, just the kind of candidate we need . . .

"were all in this together"


lindoboy100 57M
20978 posts
5/25/2020 5:03 am

I heard talk of Cuomo replacing Biden as Dem candidate. Is there any more on that story?

The willingness of so many people to allow themselves to be lied to is a constant source of wonder to me.

Pull ma finger.........


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/24/2020 8:14 pm

    Quoting rick315875:
    You've made the assumption that Trump supporters can see the logic of your argument. I doubt they can.
yeah, youre probably right, but trump-little-dick jokes
arent going to enlighten them,
and can only serve to alienate anyone still inexplicably "on the fence".

you still post your stats and articles periodically,
and i read them all,

and like you,
i refuse to roll over and let the uneducated rabble mob "win".

even saving one of "them" might save us all.

"were all in this together"


rick315875 61M
9626 posts
5/24/2020 5:32 am

You've made the assumption that Trump supporters can see the logic of your argument. I doubt they can.


Tmptrzz 57F  
78087 posts
5/23/2020 7:22 am

All I can say about this is NO PARDON FOR TRUMP AT ALL!!! I hope your enjoying your long weekend..

Just your average every day run of the mill nana here!!!


powercaps716 63M
22809 posts
5/23/2020 3:17 am

    Quoting randi5619:
    They are both a disaster. Biden is a brain-dead "Has Been" who is ready for the Glue Factory. Donald Trump is the most vicious nastiest immature Sociopath any of us have seen in politics in decades. And this is the best the United States can offer the world? How sad.
you know i agree with you, thought i was the only one....


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/22/2020 9:47 pm

    Quoting JustLookn439:
    By the way, a poll with 7 results probably isn't large enough to extrapolate the thoughts of a nation. That was the mistake the liberal media made when the polled Hillary vs Trump.
i agree, its a small sample, just a discussion point.
9,000 peoples opinions? hell, according to trump,
TEN TIMES that many DYING is an accomplishment
worth bragging over


while im not a fan of clintons (except when compared to trump),

clinton DID win the popular vote, by about 3 MILLION AMERICANS.
she just didnt play the electoral college as well trump did,
calculating whose votes meant more than others.
that wasnt the way it was supposed to work.
to her, a person is a person, no one less than another.

so while she didnt DE-VALUE some americans compared to others,
trump, the wheeler-dealer
with a string of YUGE business failures on his resume,
did.

for example,
im from pennsylvania (20 electoral college votes)
and youre from massachusetts (11 votes),
so the way trump "plays" the system,
MY vote means MORE than YOURS does.

its one thing to follow the rules,
its another to bend and twist them,
like being allowed a certain number of fouls in basketball
and being expected to intentionally use most of them.

should our next election also be decided by foul shots?
would you happy be with that ? !

looking forward to continued discussion. thanx

"were all in this together"


scorp6926 58M
62 posts
5/22/2020 9:46 pm

just an observation, Trump will always be impeached by congress, that cant be pardoned, you brought up crimes to be pardoned, he has not been convicted of a crime, so cannot be pardoned for not committing a crime. My point was no president has been guilty of a crime and pardoned, impeached....yes., And I agree with you completely, several of them, I assume are involved in illegal shit. Again my point, no president has been convicted of a crime after his presidency is over. So no need to pardon cuz its not going to happen. "opening that can of worms" If it did happen,each president thereafter depending on who had the majority would be investigated....OK I'M done. Have a good night!!


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/22/2020 9:22 pm

    Quoting JustLookn439:
    Trump isn't guilty. A statement I can make as an American. Innocent until proven guilty. Democrats have "investigated" and framed everyone they could and STILL haven't found anything to remove him from office. With THIS kind of scrutiny, unlike any other President has endured, I feel pretty good about Trump's thanks to the Democrats. Funny thing is I don't like Trump and didn't vote....but was kind of glad he won because I dislike Hillary even more.
    Now I feel confident I will NEVER vote Democrat again as the corruption with the 9th Circuit Circus and the Dossier, and the way they treated Bernie have convinced me they are an illegal party. I wish Pence was the candidate.
interesting thoughts and points. thanx for your input

biggest point i must debate is that
"they . . .havent found anything to remove him from office."

well, when the trump-fearing republican-controlled senate
"votes" to DIS-allow witness testimony and document evidence
from the impeachment trial, hes HARDLY been "proven" innocent either.

if you want to talk about investigations,
please see kzoopairs comment on
nosnowformes blog
"trump bestows upon himself . . .:
post # 4320262.

thatll show you that TRUMP is the one throwing anyone and everyone
under the bus to vainly try to hide his own misdoings.
and even his own party of cronies cant corroborate
his desperate claims.
even his pet dog bill barr deemed his "obamagate" claims insubstantial.

and as far as the "level of scrutiny" comment?
only those with something to hide push back about being looked at.
those who do nothing wrong have nothing to hide.
he is, by choice, a PUBLIC FIGURE,
a PRESIDENT who takes credit for what others do right
(like obamas strong and rising economy he inherited)
and blames others for what he does wrong
(like insulting coronavirus alarmers for two months
until it was too late to act effectively).

and you think he gets too much scrutiny?
he CREATES controversy
to BE the center of attention.

VOTE independent in 2024, but FIRST
we need to flush out the white-wash house THIS year
to even HAVE a country IN 2024.

"were all in this together"


ltrskr 72M  
4172 posts
5/22/2020 9:14 pm

AS long as Biden has been around time after time he has proved him self a lair,
Most things he says he has done have been proven to be lies:
He did not go to law school where he said he did..
he received no awards, he graduated at the bottom of his class in a second rate school...
He has bought his son jobs, other wise he is unemployable....
Look up the truth.........
"IF HIS LIPS R MOVING< HE IS LYING!" Duh.....


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/22/2020 8:42 pm

    Quoting randi5619:
    They are both a disaster. Biden is a brain-dead "Has Been" who is ready for the Glue Factory. Donald Trump is the most vicious nastiest immature Sociopath any of us have seen in politics in decades. And this is the best the United States can offer the world? How sad.
interesting third-party observations.
thats what we need, a reliable third-party here.

but as tooth-and-nail "the" two parties here fight each other.
they DO and ALWAYS WILL work together
to make sure a viable third party never gains a foothold.

thanx for your input, sometimes it seems our great neighbours
know more about us than we do.
as far as im concerned, your observations are always welcome here


"were all in this together"


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/22/2020 8:29 pm

    Quoting scorp6926:
    I think the guys a POS, but, not in our history has a previous president been prosecuted, for anything. That would be a can of worms we could never close.
thanx for your comment, i look forward to further discussion..

andrew johnson was impeached for blocking post-civil-war
reconstruction and civil rights efforts laws since he was a flaming racist.
bill clinton was impeached for trying to cover up an extra-marital affair.
nothing like that could happen today, right ? WRONG !

and nixon would have been impeached for covering up wire-tapping
to gain information in his reelection effort.
another thing that couldnt happen today, right ? WRONG !

this isnt about OPENING cans of worms,
theyre already loose and were ass-deep in them.
and we all here know who that fat ass is.

the answer to too many crimes already
is NOT to embrace, let alone allow, MORE crimes.
freedom comes with a price - LAW !

thanx for your comment, i look forward to further discussion..

"were all in this together"


JustLookn439 54M
878 posts
5/22/2020 8:04 pm

By the way, a poll with 7 results probably isn't large enough to extrapolate the thoughts of a nation. That was the mistake the liberal media made when the polled Hillary vs Trump.


JustLookn439 54M
878 posts
5/22/2020 8:02 pm

Trump isn't guilty. A statement I can make as an American. Innocent until proven guilty. Democrats have "investigated" and framed everyone they could and STILL haven't found anything to remove him from office. With THIS kind of scrutiny, unlike any other President has endured, I feel pretty good about Trump's thanks to the Democrats. Funny thing is I don't like Trump and didn't vote....but was kind of glad he won because I dislike Hillary even more.
Now I feel confident I will NEVER vote Democrat again as the corruption with the 9th Circuit Circus and the Dossier, and the way they treated Bernie have convinced me they are an illegal party. I wish Pence was the candidate.


Dwnrvrguy112 44M
1 post
5/22/2020 7:35 pm

Biden 2020


randi5619 64M  
13 posts
5/22/2020 6:55 pm

They are both a disaster. Biden is a brain-dead "Has Been" who is ready for the Glue Factory. Donald Trump is the most vicious nastiest immature Sociopath any of us have seen in politics in decades. And this is the best the United States can offer the world? How sad.


scorp6926 58M
62 posts
5/22/2020 6:25 pm

I think the guys a POS, but, not in our history has a previous president been prosecuted, for anything. That would be a can of worms we could never close.


thikhead 63M
2861 posts
5/22/2020 5:36 pm

ok, any trumper "knows" polls are all "fake news" and
nobodys opinion means anything, except theirs.
so lets look at their views together, shall we?

apparently a significant number oppose biden NOT pardoning trump.
lets assume its not those you trumpers call "trump-haters". fair ?

so it must be trump SUPPORTERS, also fair ?

so then, a significant number of trump supporters
are admitting that trump HAS committed a crime or crimes
or else why would a pardon even be an issue?

lets hear the excuses and blame-game now.

"were all in this together"


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